Hey Tui, good summary. Again I think media is burying the lede here. Casey is there because she has no direct relationships with tobacco lobby. She is doing the heavy lifting for the NZ first pollies that do and I feel as such there is a disconnect by design between who has been given this information from lobbyists and who is enacting the policy. HTPs are tobacco, and as such shouldn’t be getting a reduction. A reduction in combustion products does not equate a reduction in harm. It is not a linear relationship, and it sure as shit hasn’t been evaluated as such. Example from memory was the reduction in tar percentage in 1950s, this was thought to be a way of reducing harm. Unfortunately the continued increase in lung disease and death from smoking showed it wasn’t actually a dose -effect relationship of lower tar. HTS gives more chance of aldehydes and nicotine being absorbed compared to conventional cigarettes. Moreover they are available via a subscription service, so bypass sales through existing retailers.
Thanks MT. It would be funny if it wasn’t so unbelievably friggin awful, aside from the lies and obvious corruption, the potential negative health impacts looming, after all these months since the cancellation of smoke free generation, all of this still leaves me reeling in disbelief that a NZ govt could be so blatantly uncaring of health issues. Have all the ‘officials’ that provide advice been removed…? My partner just said I shouldn’t think of them as a traditional govt. They suggested I should see them as ‘employees’ of vested interests who have the privately owned media as their comms team. This fits with Luxon’s ‘CEO/KPI’ leadership too… *sigh.
So...we have costello and Philip Morris, seymour and charter schools, luxon and the bright line legislation, Nicole McKee and gun laws, reti and private medical holdings, probably more I haven't figured out. Wasn't there a labour mp last year that resigned because he had shares in something? This coalition government is so corrupt it stinks.
Yeah, Michael Woods was forced to resign because he had - was it $12,000 worth - of airport shares.
And because propriety and avoiding any perceived conflict of interest is important to public roles [and Woods didn't like admin] he was effectively asked to resign.
Oh how naive the left are!
The conflicts of interest wherever we look [and potential corruption] stinks and it permeates through every cell and pore of every Minister in this government from Chris Bishop to David Seymour to Luxon to Costello to Jones - polluting our political discourse and country's direction.
Hey Tui, good summary. Again I think media is burying the lede here. Casey is there because she has no direct relationships with tobacco lobby. She is doing the heavy lifting for the NZ first pollies that do and I feel as such there is a disconnect by design between who has been given this information from lobbyists and who is enacting the policy. HTPs are tobacco, and as such shouldn’t be getting a reduction. A reduction in combustion products does not equate a reduction in harm. It is not a linear relationship, and it sure as shit hasn’t been evaluated as such. Example from memory was the reduction in tar percentage in 1950s, this was thought to be a way of reducing harm. Unfortunately the continued increase in lung disease and death from smoking showed it wasn’t actually a dose -effect relationship of lower tar. HTS gives more chance of aldehydes and nicotine being absorbed compared to conventional cigarettes. Moreover they are available via a subscription service, so bypass sales through existing retailers.
The disconnect probably involves Atlas Network operatives doing their job…
Thanks MT. It would be funny if it wasn’t so unbelievably friggin awful, aside from the lies and obvious corruption, the potential negative health impacts looming, after all these months since the cancellation of smoke free generation, all of this still leaves me reeling in disbelief that a NZ govt could be so blatantly uncaring of health issues. Have all the ‘officials’ that provide advice been removed…? My partner just said I shouldn’t think of them as a traditional govt. They suggested I should see them as ‘employees’ of vested interests who have the privately owned media as their comms team. This fits with Luxon’s ‘CEO/KPI’ leadership too… *sigh.
Casey Costello list MP Philip Morris First
We've always had a modicum of corruption in central and local govt. Indeed a couple of mayor's in the auckland region were well known for it.
But, with Costello still having a job it has become blatant, in an "I don't give a shit" manner.
Thanks for splitting the two posts off this morn Tui, much easier for my pea brain.
So...we have costello and Philip Morris, seymour and charter schools, luxon and the bright line legislation, Nicole McKee and gun laws, reti and private medical holdings, probably more I haven't figured out. Wasn't there a labour mp last year that resigned because he had shares in something? This coalition government is so corrupt it stinks.
Yeah, Michael Woods was forced to resign because he had - was it $12,000 worth - of airport shares.
And because propriety and avoiding any perceived conflict of interest is important to public roles [and Woods didn't like admin] he was effectively asked to resign.
Oh how naive the left are!
The conflicts of interest wherever we look [and potential corruption] stinks and it permeates through every cell and pore of every Minister in this government from Chris Bishop to David Seymour to Luxon to Costello to Jones - polluting our political discourse and country's direction.
They are everywhere and they aren't great.